BruceP wrote:Principles and methods
The principles are fairly universal among the different lineages. The methods are 8 and five. Everything else is superfluous and 'stylistic'.
BruceP wrote:Organization of the principles and methods is often based on the paid that is given to the whole yin-yang thing. When in actuality, the organization should be based on the inflection point - Neutrality Principle.
BruceP wrote:In his Traditional Training thread, John Wang talked about having his beginners start wrestling right off the hop so they can find something that works naturally for them, and then building their fightiness off of that. He's getting them to tap into the basic physicality of their Personal Combat from a very good place.
Steve Rowe wrote:As BruceP said. You can even say between Karate and Tai Chi, the deeper you go principle based that we all have an inside and an outside, a spine, core and limbs etc and we're all looking for the 'optimum' way to do things, so the periphery may look very different to the non trainer but the deeper you go the more everything becomes the same.
wayne hansen wrote:Your karate may be like tai chi Steve but most isn't
You just have to watch Kanazawa do tai chi to know he missed the mark
I don't like to call what I do tai chi not because it isn't ,but because it is not what the general populace calls tai chi.
The first time I trained with Dan Innosanto I couldn't believe how much he moved like my teacher
Those who evolve to a high level in any art tend to move in the same manner
The biggest problem is these days people start to pass on what they are learning not what they have learned
I remember years ago a CLF practicioner told me his teacher would not let him teach
He asked my advice and I told him if he really deeply understood something it was up to him
I thought he would take the hint,he was terrible.
Next time I saw him he said he had taken my advice and was teaching
I have been more direct with people since then
Bruce lee regretted naming his art.
Tai chi/not tai chi
It doesn't change the facts but at times it is false advertising or spin at the least
wayne hansen wrote:What do you think of it Willie
How old is he in the clip
cloudz wrote:Jesus, we're not doing "different martial arts" we're doing different styles of tai chi. Why is that so difficult ?
There are different styles of boxing, karate, wing chun etc.
So why so hard for that to get through, I mean we call them by different style names already.
I have no idea what the issues are here, it's silly. Mostly all just semantics. If you know taiji, you know it and can recognise it.
Do you really need to sit and write all this intellectualizing and semantics or sit and naval gaze about it..
There is one tai chi art, like boxing is one art. there are just different systems/styles of training it/ doing it. And when you look closer there's lot's of overlap in them. A lot.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26234&start=45 and tested,You might remember my saying that a lot of Mr. Long's students used his White Crane in the streets -- just as there were guys in our later school where were bouncers. But some of Mr. Long's students were street gang members, and a few of them had developed really interesting and unique ways of using White Crane.
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