Spncr wrote: "From correct practice of Pranayama, all illnesses can be cured. From incorrect practice of Pranayama, all illnesses can occur."
Spncr wrote: "From correct practice of Pranayama, all illnesses can be cured. From incorrect practice of Pranayama, all illnesses can occur."
wiesiek wrote:...I don`t think , that we have western MD`s experienced in eastern esoteric staff,
or even interested in seriously doing it, for that matter....
Peacedog wrote:Yeniseri,
Regarding undiagnosed schizophrenia and the like, on a basic level any meditative/yogic work modulates the sense gates in the body (sight, sound, taste, touch and smell). Malfunctions of the sight gate result in hallucinations/clairvoyance, the sound gate results in hearing voices/clairaudience, the touch gate results in weird sensations in the body/clairsentience and the taste/smell gates in odd flavors and smells that transmit information about the local environment. This is a major topic of my book on meditation that should be out in June sometime on Kindle.
I have frequently seen this cause some interesting sensory phenomena to occur in people with no history of any psychiatric conditions. Generally speaking these are temporary in nature, on rare occasions they can be more lasting.
In most systems the advice when these things get out of hand is to simply stop practicing the techniques linked to the problem. My issue with this is that once these things start happening they seem to never really go away completely and at a minimum the practitioner with the problem is prone to having it happen again. This is why I refer to meditative/yogic work as more about opening and walking through doorways that cannot be shut that something you can just start and stop.
The techniques to repair this kind of thing are not particularly well known, but are rather simple in nature. I've long wanted to work with a group of early onset schizophrenics to see if this would help in their case (i.e. people who have not been on drugs for any significant length of time). Anecdotal evidence indicates this can be helpful, but longer term medical studies on the role of meditation and the mentally ill generally report mixed results.
Peacedog wrote:I'm fairly familiar with cases like hers. In those cases acupuncture typically provides a palliative effect without being able to solve the problem. If she goes back every week or so things are fine, but if she misses too many sessions it comes back.
In cases like this learning to run the orbits and doing so consistently takes care of the problem long term.
Peacedog wrote:It took about 10 years to begin to figure it out. It got to the point that I spent two winters barefoot on the ice in the mountains at the service academy I attended from the second duty in the evening ended.
I finally met my Taoist teacher in Arizona and everything worked itself out care of some solid qi gong and running the orbits over a period of about a year.
Truly spontaneous encounters with the divine seem to be fairly rare, probably on the order 1 in 100000 or less, but I have met at least one gentleman who went through the kundalini with no training at all. In cases like this most people who survive the process generally keep it to themselves. Glenn Morris wrote about this in one of his books.
Kundalini awakening seems the most common example of this. I did however meet one young man who went through a kind of reverse kundalini that resulted in some kind of energy entering through the top of his head. A nearby witness described it as a kind of lightning strike coming out of a clear blue sky that threw the young man about 10 feet when it happened. He ended up practicing Gary Clyman's nei gung system and was doing just fine the last time I saw him about 10 years ago.
Peacedog wrote:And then there was a time in a club in Jerusalem when I had been practicing several hours a day and inadvertently charged up an entire club. People were dancing on tables and it kind of devolved from there. The effect on the fashion models was...interesting. Good times...
Peacedog wrote:The last of which occurred in a Trader Joes in Tucson where a yogini became sexually stoned off of the vibe I was emitting at the time, I was pretty charged up that day, and tried to have sex with me in public. I basically ran .
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