emptycloud wrote:Ian wrote:What I meant was, where's the evidence that:
-aikido is 99% strikes, or
-adding strikes to the kind of freestyle situation in the OP video... would've made a damn bit of difference.
Other styles don't have this problem.
Entering into competitive arenas of sport or freestyle combat isn't really part of the culture of Aikido. This may change, there are some aikido schools who actively cross train in mma. (Will post some vids of their stuff, I am off to class right now, will do it later )
In my classes we devout sometime each week to simple, no nonsense self protection training where we essentially concentrate on fast strikes to soft targets.
yeniseri wrote:Ueshiba was one of the few who actually trained hard up to old age!
So he possessed that hard conditioning the many refused to do and still refuse to do today. Easy does not do it in aikido. Just like taijiquan, people are so used to complying and yielding when it only leads to a heap of hurt. That is why when you slam someone on his back or borrow his legs, people will think twice about attacking you and they will know a true art when they
see you. Just my rephrasing of something Chang Dungsheng said at a workshop!
Just a workshop student and a bad one at that! Jus' sayin'
Ian wrote:emptycloud wrote:Ian wrote:What I meant was, where's the evidence that:
-aikido is 99% strikes, or
-adding strikes to the kind of freestyle situation in the OP video... would've made a damn bit of difference.
Other styles don't have this problem.
Entering into competitive arenas of sport or freestyle combat isn't really part of the culture of Aikido. This may change, there are some aikido schools who actively cross train in mma. (Will post some vids of their stuff, I am off to class right now, will do it later )
In my classes we devout sometime each week to simple, no nonsense self protection training where we essentially concentrate on fast strikes to soft targets.
Thanks for the clarification.
Personally, I'd rather train styles that don't have quite so many preconditions for their success.
Ellis Amdur also brought to my attention O Sensei's words: "Aikido is 90% atemi". According to him, understanding it in a way that "Aikido is 90% of strikes" is mistaken, because if one develops what he calls the "Aiki body", one should be able to develop power, perform transfers of forces, and even apply percussion using any body part, and in any position.[4] Philippe Gouttard recently explained to me that since etymologically, atemi is the union of two words: ateru (touch / reach / hit) and mi (body), one should consider that one is executing an atemi every time one touches a partner.[28] We thus find the idea that the essential art of the technique is considered an atemi.
timfire wrote:I recently came upon this quote:Ellis Amdur also brought to my attention O Sensei's words: "Aikido is 90% atemi". According to him, understanding it in a way that "Aikido is 90% of strikes" is mistaken, because if one develops what he calls the "Aiki body", one should be able to develop power, perform transfers of forces, and even apply percussion using any body part, and in any position.[4] Philippe Gouttard recently explained to me that since etymologically, atemi is the union of two words: ateru (touch / reach / hit) and mi (body), one should consider that one is executing an atemi every time one touches a partner.[28] We thus find the idea that the essential art of the technique is considered an atemi.
http://www.guillaumeerard.com/aikido/ar ... -in-aikido
emptycloud wrote:
This is a good point. Training hard into old age.
I try to reach my physical limit each day. Its not an easy practice. To do it in such away that avoids damage to the body or depression upon the mind.
I cycle two hours a day, work a manual job outside as a food grower, have two aikido classes a week, no car, and train at home casually... and at nearly 50yrs old ....its not easy... I try to make my work my training ground, lifting, digging, swinging axes, and other tools use.
anyone got any top tips for training as we age or is it just, no pain - no gain.
Rich
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