Trump Will be President

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:39 pm

Well it is too late for that. Trump insulted half the country and labelled part of my ancestory murderers, criminals and rapists not to mention all the offensive stuff he said about everyone else. So I will be kicking in Donald's Trump's teeth everyday for the next four years by exposing his lies to those who voted for him.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:43 pm

The best part is that he is such a fool that I don't even need to say jack because anyone paying attention will realize what a mistake it was to vote in someone with no experience whatsoever. Dude isn't even in office and he has already pissed of China?

Now getting back to blue states and red states. If the GOP has all the answers then why aren't they among the richest, instead of the poorest?
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:51 pm

This dude put it best.





https://youtu.be/Zpbt3UWaOg4
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby willie on Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:51 pm

no he did not insult your race.
and thats good, china has been ripping us off for years.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Steve James on Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:58 pm

all you people need to stop with all that negative hype.


Sorry, Trump has been doing negative hype for years. Why should anyone stop now? Why don't people realize that what goes around comes around? It's not up to people to stop complaining; it's up to him to succeed despite the complaints. His "chance" is that he has no excuse since he is "the only one" (his words) who can fix things. We'll see, but right now they're still complaining about and working to undo things that they've opposed since Obama's election. It's great to ask people to be bigger and all that, but it's not the type of thing that Trump --his supporters-- or anyone in contemporary US politics can ask for. Even respect has to be earned. It's possible, but it ain't automatic.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:13 am

willie wrote:no he did not insult your race.
and thats good, china has been ripping us off for years.
trump!


LOL!

China controls 40% of world trade and TPP was set up so the US and other nations could compete with China but now with Trump (and Bernie for that matter) demonizing TPP China is going to take the US's place and kick our asses even more.

As far as the other thing he did but either you are a racist yourself or you think racism is unimportant unless it affects you in which I won't even address it because I imagine it is the latter of the two in which case his campaign based on fear and hate won't matter to you either way.

As far as Obama not caring, let me school you.

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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:20 am

Steve James wrote:
all you people need to stop with all that negative hype.


Sorry, Trump has been doing negative hype for years. Why should anyone stop now? Why don't people realize that what goes around comes around? It's not up to people to stop complaining; it's up to him to succeed despite the complaints. His "chance" is that he has no excuse since he is "the only one" (his words) who can fix things. We'll see, but right now they're still complaining about and working to undo things that they've opposed since Obama's election. It's great to ask people to be bigger and all that, but it's not the type of thing that Trump --his supporters-- or anyone in contemporary US politics can ask for. Even respect has to be earned. It's possible, but it ain't automatic.


Right on Steve!

True, funny how it is us, the majority who did not vote for Trump, who are being asked to unite the country. If Trump is the great leader that the minorty of voters voted for then why did he not make an effort to unite the country both before and after the election? Trump ran a campaign of hate and fear and now he is about to pay for it. Everyday for the next four years we will expose you Mr. Trump. Deal with it!
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:40 am

willie wrote:china has been ripping us off for years.
trump!


You mean ripping off Ivanka? Because that is where her clothing line and her father's ties are made, in China!

Does it help when I yell too?
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:05 am

By the way Carrier is closing a different factory.

Huntington plant looks to be left out of Trump's Carrier deal | 2016-12-01 | Indianapolis Business Journal | IBJ.com

http://www.ibj.com/articles/61496-hunti ... rrier-deal
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby willie on Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:02 am

grzegorz wrote:
As far as the other thing he did but either you are a racist yourself or you think racism is unimportant unless it affects you in which I won't even address it because I imagine it is the latter of the two in which case his campaign based on fear and hate won't matter to you either way.

As far as Obama not caring, let me school you.


Wow you must have really ran out of options to pull a race card.
My best friend is black.
My family half Asian.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Steve James on Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:20 am

It drives me sorta crazy when people talk about "cards." Trump spent the election talking about how all Hillary had was the "woman card." But, would it be fair to say that Trump was pulling the "white race card"? Would it be fair to say that some of his supporters thought he was? Anyway, we know the answer to the last question because they've told us. However, there's no way to tell based on "race" or sex or one's friends, only from what people say and do.

Personally, I wouldn't think it worthwhile to bring up Trump's race. I'd rather focus on the fact that after criticizing Clinton for speaking to Goldman Sachs, and promising to end all that, he appoints Goldman Sachs executives to top positions. Now, it might work. My point is that if they were the real problem, then the situation will stay the same. However, someone will have to be blamed, and someone will have to pay. I think it would be much easier to accuse someone than to accept being fooled.

Afa Trump's calls, "loose lips sink ships."
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby willie on Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:35 am

Steve James wrote:It drives me sorta crazy when people talk about "cards." Trump spent the election talking about how all Hillary had was the "woman card." But, would it be fair to say that Trump was pulling the "white race card"? Would it be fair to say that some of his supporters thought he was? Anyway, we know the answer to the last question because they've told us. However, there's no way to tell based on "race" or sex or one's friends, only from what people say and do.

Personally, I wouldn't think it worthwhile to bring up Trump's race. I'd rather focus on the fact that after criticizing Clinton for speaking to Goldman Sachs, and promising to end all that, he appoints Goldman Sachs executives to top positions. Now, it might work. My point is that if they were the real problem, then the situation will stay the same. However, someone will have to be blamed, and someone will have to pay. I think it would be much easier to accuse someone than to accept being fooled.

Afa Trump's calls, "loose lips sink ships."


Again i don't really care. i just want the best for the people, All the people, we the people, white, black, Asian, Hispanic.

This is important, but seems trivial.
The Chinese people, through censorship, had no idea when the movie Superman was released.
The Chinese people knew the movie was being made, but never the release date, why? Their gov didn't want them spending Chinese money on seeing it.

It's simple, They don't want any Chinese money leaving China for any reason. What they have set up is a system to slowly
gather everyone's cash while keeping ALL of their own. It's simple

Export perishables / Import cash.

So as you can see, i couldn't care less about race, I look at the systems and see if they are good for the people in the long run.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby Steve James on Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:56 am

Well, beating a dead horse, there's no such thing as "race" except as far as people want to use the concept to categorize people. And, since --even on this thread-- people have pointed out their multiple ethnic origins, the concept of race becomes a matter of belief. However, the reason for the development of the concept is purely economic, and derives from the economics of oppression. We call it capitalism, but it ends up that the country's wealth is held by a few people. And, these people argue that if they don't make more there will be fewer people working. There needs to be people who are competing to work for lower wages. And the result is that it's easy to get one half of the poor to hate the other half. That's the psychology.

Afa being good for the people, programs like social security, unemployment, welfare, etc., are all "for the people." Yet, the arguments recently have focused on reducing them, sometimes on the basis that they are "socialist." In fact, the system is based on the overall benefits of individual greed. It's about money. You must remember OWS and the complaints about the 1%? Ironic, isn't it?

So, I completely agree with you that the system screws many people. Otoh, health care for "the people" seems like it should be the primary interest of anyone who cares about "them." But, I totally understand why young people who aren't ill complain about being forced to have it. Of course, in every other developed country, health care is a given.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:02 am

willie wrote:
grzegorz wrote:
As far as the other thing he did but either you are a racist yourself or you think racism is unimportant unless it affects you in which I won't even address it because I imagine it is the latter of the two in which case his campaign based on fear and hate won't matter to you either way.

As far as Obama not caring, let me school you.


Wow you must have really ran out of options to pull a race card.
My best friend is black.
My family half Asian.


I said the latter, by that I meant you don't care about the racist stuff your boy Chump said because it doesn't affect you.
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Re: Trump Will be President

Postby grzegorz on Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:03 am

I still can't figure out why the media is not bringing up Carrier closing down a separate factory after the "deal."
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