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Like his ideas

PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:14 pm
by wayne hansen

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:32 am
by GrahamB
I notice this thing in Chinese martial arts - people are always talking about the "misunderstanding" of others - that word keeps cropping up.

You don't find it in other martial arts - like I don't see Silat people talking about the misunderstandings of others, or Karate people talking about misunderstanding as much.

Just an observation because this guy does it a lot. Perhaps it's because in things like Yi Quan it is not obvious what you're doing all the time.

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:03 am
by wayne hansen
He is talking about better ways of understanding I chuan and quoting the originator
You must be not listening if you think people doing WC or Karate don’t talk about the misunderstanding of others within their own art

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:17 am
by windwalker
GrahamB wrote:I notice this thing in Chinese martial arts - people are always talking about the "misunderstanding" of others - that word keeps cropping up.

You don't find it in other martial arts - like I don't see Silat people talking about the misunderstandings of others, or Karate people

talking about misunderstanding as much.

Just an observation because this guy does it a lot. Perhaps it's because in things like Yi Quan it is not obvious what you're doing all the time.


agree :)

Seems like he / they would be better off with doing something like boxing...

"stop listening" ;D

good advice, its his / their practice :)

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:36 am
by origami_itto
It's most commonly phrased like "no it's not that at all they have it all wrong"
"Well... what is it then?"
"I can't tell you."
"Okay, show me."
"I can't show you."
"Where can I learn about it?"
"Nobody knows it but me."

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:00 pm
by wayne hansen
I don’t really like the way he moves but what he says has real value
If you can’t see that well that’s the way it is

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:51 pm
by origami_itto
Honestly, I gave it 3 minutes and didn't hear anything interesting.

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:04 pm
by GrahamB
origami_itto wrote:Honestly, I gave it 3 minutes and didn't hear anything interesting.


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Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:21 pm
by Bao
origami_itto wrote:Honestly, I gave it 3 minutes and didn't hear anything interesting.


I actually listened to several of his videos. I like his attitude. And yeah, he shares some interesting ideas.

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:29 pm
by wayne hansen
origami_itto wrote:Honestly, I gave it 3 minutes and didn't hear anything interesting.

Seems par for the course

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:16 pm
by Trick
About Yiquan, when it came in vogue loads of ppl and teachers of other martial arts without actually having trained in yiquan began to copy, but only surface wise and guessing how to.
It was not even misunderstandings but rather pure fabrications and guessings pushed as a real thing.

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:58 am
by Bao
Trick wrote:It was not even misunderstandings but rather pure fabrications and guessings pushed as a real thing.


Just as how "Shaolin" has been treated and served as various forms of Mcdojo.

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:23 am
by origami_itto
wayne hansen wrote:
origami_itto wrote:Honestly, I gave it 3 minutes and didn't hear anything interesting.

Seems par for the course

Yeah not too interested in smug old men waxing self important. Y'all take yourselves way too seriously.

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:25 am
by origami_itto
Bao wrote:
origami_itto wrote:Honestly, I gave it 3 minutes and didn't hear anything interesting.


I actually listened to several of his videos. I like his attitude. And yeah, he shares some interesting ideas.

I know I have a disability, information density is critical. 3 minutes to introduce the point isn't about the information, it's about enjoying the sound of your own voice. Gimme text, I'll ask questions to clarify

Re: Like his ideas

PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:39 am
by Bao
origami_itto wrote: 3 minutes to introduce the point isn't about the information, it's about enjoying the sound of your own voice.


A bit unfair. But I liked the following two videos better than this one.