Ron Panunto wrote:The taiji form, or style, doesn't matter. Find a teacher who knows and will teach the system's shenfa (or body method), the basic jins, and how to apply these jins in self-defense usage of the postures within the form he is teaching.
everything wrote:eh. just do the cloud hands and brush knee. maybe wild horse's mane. a long choreography is more of a mental training. it's really not particularly interesting.
Ron Panunto wrote:everything wrote:eh. just do the cloud hands and brush knee. maybe wild horse's mane. a long choreography is more of a mental training. it's really not particularly interesting.
IMHO the form that you practice should at least have one posture representative of each of the taiji 13 (8+5) jins and movements. If your not learning and practicing the "13" then your not doing taiji.
chud wrote:Waterway wrote:
I am curious though, is there any other starting form people in Taiji learnt other than 24 form?
Not sure why you keep asking about "starting form". The starting form is whichever form you happen to learn first. For some people that is a long form such as Yang 108 or Chen's Lao Jia Yi Lu. The short forms are a little more accessible to beginners though I guess. I think CZL's 18 movement form is pretty good, but then again I'm sorta biased.
Waterway wrote:Taiji excercises that are taught to people before getting them going into forms?
Waterway wrote:the 24 form being the form that you learn as an "introduction" to Taiji, something that you "had" to learn before learning more about Taiji. It seems to be the opinion of at least 2 teachers in my area.
I was just wondering if there was any reason for this e.g. is 24 form so much easier to learn than any other form? I wanted to find out why some many local teachers seemed intent on starting everyone on this form.
chud wrote:I would stay far away from those teachers ...
Waterway wrote:
The thing is, a lot of the classes are filled with people who are purely interested in health. Nothing wrong with that, but that seems to be what the class is geared towards. I have taken some private lessons with the guy for Qi Gong, and I felt I got more benefit out of one Qi Gong Lesson than I did the whole time I studied 24 form.
johnwang wrote:Later on I found out that people were talking about "better flow of Qi" and nobody gave dam about combat. I felt like a fool myself as a chicken talked to some ducks in that discussion.
chud wrote:Waterway wrote:the 24 form being the form that you learn as an "introduction" to Taiji, something that you "had" to learn before learning more about Taiji. It seems to be the opinion of at least 2 teachers in my area.
I was just wondering if there was any reason for this e.g. is 24 form so much easier to learn than any other form? I wanted to find out why some many local teachers seemed intent on starting everyone on this form.
I would stay far away from those teachers then. Any teacher who uses the Beijing 24 as a starter form doesn't know good Taiji when they see it. Would this happen to be a Shaolin-Do school?
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