origami_itto wrote:I'd say there is a difference between qinna meaning a particular system of techniques associated with a particular art or style and the concept of na, seizing, as applied in general, and that seizing can range from benign to completely destructive.
Control holds are na but they might not even cause pain.
Trick wrote:As usually DG want it to be the hardcore SB movie stuff.
Qinna- I think should be something as -‘capture-hold’
In a Taijiquan context, I'm looking at ways to turn their committed grab into a qinna. If they are holding on to my wrist,
拿 - ná - to hold / to seize / to catch / to apprehend / to take
origami_itto wrote:Like I said that is a divergence from common usage across CMA so might just be something unique to your own line of instruction.
Steve James wrote:In a Taijiquan context, I'm looking at ways to turn their committed grab into a qinna. If they are holding on to my wrist,
If they're holding your wrists, they're already making a mistake. Then again, it's very rare ime for males to try to grab wrists. But, anyway, if you're doing the form correctly, to break any wrist grab, just do almost any form. That means without using a lot of strength or struggling.
All I am saying is, that what you are describing as Na, is not at all wrong. But that Na, especially in the Ti Da Shuai Na context, can encompass a lot more techniques and outcomes. Just think about it. Mull it over in your mind for a few days.
That’s called a Qin.
If a Qin causes something to break, then it’s a QinNa
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