GrahamB wrote:Like everybody else on this thread, I can't see any particular movement of the lumbar spine going on in that original video? If you want a video that demonstrates that, then why not use one that shows it beyond 'so refined you can't see it' level?
I can however see some really nice horizontal rotational control of the torso going on - what we'd call Dragon Body.
Personally, I dislike seeing Xing Yi without stepping, but I guess it's like a mid way point between stepping and Zhan Zhuang, so yeah, if that floats your boat, go for it.
When it comes to "spinal waves" I dislike that term as well. Sure, the energy can move in a wave like motion through the whole body... but I don't think the human spine has evolved to be used literally like a whip. Sounds like a great way to put your back or neck out and slip a disk to me. Now, use it like a bow? That's something else.
There are so many different ways of doing things in Xing Yi because it's split into different lineages and is so damn old that of course there are loads of different ways of doing it.
GrahamB wrote:The Non Shakers and Movers in the Xing Yi world:
https://thetaichinotebook.com/2020/01/1 ... gyi-world/
GrahamB wrote:Ah! The step of no step! Is that like the burp of no burp?
I think the situation is really quite simple. The further and further away you get from actually hitting somebody the more and more you get into all these weird 'fa jin' things like shaking, stepping without stepping, and burping without burping.
D_Glenn wrote:Shaking is Zhen (shocking) Jin. You can change the way the Flesh-Wave moves by relaxing or tensing muscles. Your muscles can all be completely tense before and after the Jolt/ Spring. Which will produce a Dang (Blocking/Shield) Jin. Or it can be completely relaxed- Zhen Jin. There’s all types of different Jins in between that. But don’t intentionally try to shake if you’re practicing your Zhen Jin. Just let it happen. But also don’t try to stop it. It’s actually easier to learn if you practice about halfway in between Dang and Zhen.
D_Glenn wrote: I’m not saying that this is the whip. This is the bow. The lumbar and the thoracic spring like a bow, from one position to the other position, then return and repeat. The spring comes from the isometric nature of the Transverse Abdominal Muscles (TVA). Thanks for bringing that up though. During the first 6 months that a person practices this, they may find that the bow of the lumbar spine, doesn’t want to sync up with the bow of the thoracic spine. This is a major mental hurdle that everyone has to get past. It’s called “Getting the two bows of the spine to function as one.”
Return to Xingyiquan - Baguazhang - Taijiquan
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 81 guests