wayne hansen wrote:I don’t think u understand the 3H it’s form and function
wayne hansen wrote:Good summation
It is exactly what some of us here have been saying
Recent studies have elaborated the role of muscular fascia as essential force transmitter in muscular dynamics (Stecco et al., 2006, 2009; Huijing, 2009; Maas and Huijing, 2012; Pavan et al., 2015; Krause et al., 2016). However, fascia is usually considered as a relatively inert tissue that is assumed to serve a passive role only in musculoskeletal biomechanics.
In contrast to this common assumption there have been sporadic indications of a more active role of fascia due to an inherent ability to actively contract. These indications include the reported phenomenon of “ligament contraction” of human lumbar fascia in response to repeated isometric strain application in vitro (Yahia et al., 1993), the documented presence of interspersed cells with smooth muscle-like appearance in the human fascia cruris (Staubesand and Li, 1996; Staubesand et al., 1997; Bhattacharya et al., 2010), and the clinical experience of seemingly animated fascial tonus changes in response to fascia manipulation treatments frequently reported by manual therapists (Minasny, 2009) and acupuncturists (Langevin et al., 2001).
suckinlhbf wrote:Giles,
Just want to pick your mind from your professional knowledge on the following two scenarios if you don't mind.
1. The person can move freely and casually from one posture to the next. I would think either the person can relax the whole body inside out or he swings casually without connection.
2. The person finds himself stuck and has to take a lot of effort to move from one posture to the next. On this, he could have his bones, tendon, membrane (fascia???) ... aligned and locked up so his movements are restricted.
Kelley Graham wrote:I teach that fascia is important. if you break it, you suffer greatly, so follow instructions. when asked, "Can you do things with the fascia? Can you fight with the fascia, can you feel the fascia? etc" I answer "Everything you do relies on the fascia, but you can't manipulate it directly.
Giles wrote:Thanks for posting/passing on this description, Kelley. It's a good summary, which I'd interpret (from the point of view of a movement-interest person) as: Fascia help to distribute load and tension away from a specific point or line of effort/stress, transferring it more widely through the body and integrating the body's response. The extent and manner to which fascia can do this can be influenced both positively and negatively by stimuli (screw them up or free them up). So create good conditions and stimuli, and both movement and general health will probably benefit.Kelley Graham wrote:I teach that fascia is important. if you break it, you suffer greatly, so follow instructions. when asked, "Can you do things with the fascia? Can you fight with the fascia, can you feel the fascia? etc" I answer "Everything you do relies on the fascia, but you can't manipulate it directly.
That's incorrect, insofar as fascia can be directly manipulated, albeit subtly, in some kinds of physical therapy. As I wrote before. For instance one can connect with the fascia in the thighs or calves of a client (lying on a treatment table, for instance), exert quite subtle traction, and fascia up through the neck and around the top of the head will respond and 'open up'. Both practitioner and client (if the latter has some sensitivity) may be able to sense this.
Otherwise, as said ten times already, any good 'normal' internal training that can combine relaxation and opening/stretching at the same moment ('fang song') will tend to have a similar effect. Probably distributed more generally through the body, but that's a secondary issue.
Now I'm going back to bed...
wiesiek wrote:..." how it can be used in training..."
You can not use it in training, you train It undirectly for removing all >internal blockades<,
this gives you uninterrupted internal connection, which allows you to use technique as it was designed.
The word for fascia in Chinese is "筋膜" (jīnmó)
windwalker wrote:
In our practice we use 3 levels of contact. skin, hair and air...
this means there is no direct transfer of momentum via percussive impact..
We use rubbing, rolling, twisting as different ways transfer / conduct momentum.
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