Bhassler wrote:I think there is enough divergence between the various lineages that they can be considered totally separate arts. Compare Chen Zhonghua with Chen Yu - both could be considered grand-students of Chen Fake, but they have totally different foundational methods to their practices. Comparing Chen style to Yang style, etc. the differences can be even bigger. One could argue common origins and some similarities, but the same is true for Wing Chun, White Crane, and Karate, yet no one considers those all to be the same art.
Just food for thought, as I didn't want to derail another thread.
willie wrote:wayne hansen wrote:What do you think of it Willie
How old is he in the clip
I think that he has a wealth of knowledge that is fast becoming lost forever.
I personally don't know him, But I can say that he is more like my teacher and less like the many.
It's seems that most people are just trying to acquire good peng jin, They have forgotten the waza.
"My teacher has mastered the waza".
willie wrote:"My teacher has mastered the waza".
johnwang wrote:willie wrote:"My teacher has mastered the waza".
What's "waza"?
wayne hansen wrote:willie wrote:wayne hansen wrote:What do you think of it Willie
How old is he in the clip
I think that he has a wealth of knowledge that is fast becoming lost forever.
I personally don't know him, But I can say that he is more like my teacher and less like the many.
It's seems that most people are just trying to acquire good peng jin, They have forgotten the waza.
"My teacher has mastered the waza".
What about how he looses his balance on nearly application on a cooperative student from a standing start
If he is the apex of Chen style like many say that explains a lot
wayne hansen wrote:If you think someone loosing his balance on nearly every application is a living textbook willly
You are rightly named
cloudz wrote:Bhassler wrote:I think there is enough divergence between the various lineages that they can be considered totally separate arts. Compare Chen Zhonghua with Chen Yu - both could be considered grand-students of Chen Fake, but they have totally different foundational methods to their practices. Comparing Chen style to Yang style, etc. the differences can be even bigger. One could argue common origins and some similarities, but the same is true for Wing Chun, White Crane, and Karate, yet no one considers those all to be the same art.
Just food for thought, as I didn't want to derail another thread.
This is one of those similarities vs. differences double sided measuring sticks or semantic merry go rounds. Pick your thrill.
Are they more similar or more different, how much, which should we push to the fore?
Sometimes we call arts styles and styles arts; shoot to kill, the bastards that do such things to us!!
BruceP wrote:There was this guy named, Shooter, who used always say that there are as many styles of tai chi as there are players...
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