Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

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Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby captainhindsight on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:01 pm

It seems to me the internal arts are the best at producing Fa Jing or refined explosive power. So what are they doing that other external arts are not doing?

(No one seems to know)
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby bailu on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:12 pm

You're far too obsessed with Fa Jin.

You'll find that the so-called "external" arts can demonstrate a lot more examples of refined explosive power than the "internal" arts. Watch any pro boxing or mma match to see solidly tested explosive, refined power.

If you want to develop fa jin, you need to find a teacher who can show you how to integrate whole body movement, relaxation, and power generation in a connected frame, against a moving target.

Forget the terms 'internal' and 'external'.
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby I am... on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:13 pm

Each art has an engine/power generation method. Some of them are more related than others. I am not a Tai-Chi, Xingyi, or Bagua person myself so I will leave explaining the engine to those that train those specific arts.
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby Bao on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:31 pm

captainhindsight wrote:So what are they doing that other external arts are not doing?
(No one seems to know)


Respond to the other questions from several other people in your many other threads and I will give you the answer...
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby bailu on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:35 pm

Captainhindsight doesn't like to respond to questions - but likes to demand everyone else run around him:

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums ... p?t=124084

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums ... p?t=124083

I predict a similar pattern of behaviour here.. Don't hold out for a discussion with him/her.
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby Bao on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:39 pm

bailu wrote:Captainhindsight doesn't like to respond to questions - but likes to demand everyone else run around him...


Yes, and it's called trolling - to write something just to provoke an answer or stir up a discussion without any other intent.
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby Dmitri on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:50 pm

Yup. He reminds me a lot of someone who used to post here not so long ago... very similar style.

Nice signature too... ::)
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby klonk on Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:55 pm

captainhindsight wrote:It seems to me the internal arts are the best at producing Fa Jing or refined explosive power. So what are they doing that other external arts are not doing?

(No one seems to know)


The question is proof positive that you are not fond of following links. ::)
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby wayne hansen on Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:40 pm

He is most likley similar to other arts that never talked about internal 20 years back
Picked up a few terms and exercises from other arts and use them to fool the gullible in class and seminar settings
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby captainhindsight on Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:59 pm

feeling a bit down are we :) hahaha
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby Dmitri on Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:18 pm

This is THE most blatantly-open troll behavior I've seen in a long time...

Enjoy it while it lasts... shouldn't be long, with this sort of attitude.

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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby shawnsegler on Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:05 pm

It actually makes me a little wistful..like coming across a breed of animal you'd thought was extinct.

C'mon all you old school board members lets have a group hug as we watch the noble dodo pass briefly back into the world. Fly free you magnificent fat bird!

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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby MaartenSFS on Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:43 pm

Except that the Dodo is still talked about..
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby captainhindsight on Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:48 pm

Still happy :)

Try harder.

Maybe a ban for trolling will work?
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Re: Where does the power come from in the internal arts?

Postby allen2saint on Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:53 pm

bailu wrote:Captainhindsight doesn't like to respond to questions - but likes to demand everyone else run around him:

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums ... p?t=124084

http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums ... p?t=124083

I predict a similar pattern of behaviour here.. Don't hold out for a discussion with him/her.


Just want to say that is some masterful sleuthing. I never would have thought to look up a screen name.

It seems he is more of a vampire. Asking the questions and then letting the smarter, more experienced folk give up the goods.
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