Bob wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlUxtqFVkKQ
Dec 21, 2017
Tiantan Park 2008, 陈试太极拳家穿功夫架
Chen-Stil Taijiquan / Taichi Netzwerk Deutschland
ctjla wrote:Think the hate is because they don't really teach anyone anything. For example, Zhang Zhijin only really taught his son. When long time students would enter the room, he would immediately shift topics. And Chen Zhenglei is a money printing machine that uses students trained in other arts around to take on challengers. Chen Xiaowang didn't event want to train but the government made him to preserve the lineage.
Spent a good bit of time in China and lived with several highly rated competitors from Anhui and Beijing while in college. It's all about the benjamins.
Everything I've seen or heard about from that line is a joke. Or at least anyone even mildly associated with the government. Never touched Chen Zhonghua so can't comment on him. Same for Chen Yu.
Props to Chen Bing for going hard in push hands privates.
ctjla wrote:Think the hate is because they don't really teach anyone anything. For example, Zhang Zhijin only really taught his son. When long time students would enter the room, he would immediately shift topics. And Chen Zhenglei is a money printing machine that uses students trained in other arts around to take on challengers. ... Chen Xiaowang didn't event want to train but the government made him to preserve the lineage.
The Chen guys were selected, not to teach old skills and knowledge or "secrets", but to turn Tai Chi into a national sport. And that is exactly what they teach, a communist nationalist sport, that is also a tool for promoting China to foreigners.
ctjla wrote:Chen Xiaowang didn't event want to train but the government made him to preserve the lineage.
D_Glenn wrote:ctjla wrote:Chen Xiaowang didn't event want to train but the government made him to preserve the lineage.
I didn’t realize that the communists were interested in promoting Taiji way back around 1952. I thought they were in the business of persecuting martial artists during those years. I learn something new everyday.
Trick wrote:Is that the year CXW began studying ?
Back then I don’t think that village even was on the communist map of focus ? But TJQ and other gong fu wasn’t seen as something suspicious back then, wasn’t it during the cultural revolution(began 1966 ended about ten years later)such practice among things was put down ? After that people again was free to eat bitter or whatever ?
D_Glenn wrote:Trick wrote:Is that the year CXW began studying ?
Back then I don’t think that village even was on the communist map of focus ? But TJQ and other gong fu wasn’t seen as something suspicious back then, wasn’t it during the cultural revolution(began 1966 ended about ten years later)such practice among things was put down ? After that people again was free to eat bitter or whatever ?
Yes. According to his bio.
Liu Yunqiao escaped to Taiwan in 1949 and I was always under the impression that he was escaping from the Communist takeover, because he was a martial artist. My teacher didn’t start teaching openly until the 1980s.
He Jinbao began his study of Yin Style Bagua with Dr. Xie Peiqi in 1971.
Bao wrote:ctjla wrote:Think the hate is because they don't really teach anyone anything. For example, Zhang Zhijin only really taught his son. When long time students would enter the room, he would immediately shift topics. And Chen Zhenglei is a money printing machine that uses students trained in other arts around to take on challengers. ... Chen Xiaowang didn't event want to train but the government made him to preserve the lineage.
Now you are speaking about the Chen village guys, not about "Chen Tai Chi". I've also heard that some teachers from that place also try to get together with girls/women at seminars and camps and that people have been really hurt by stuff demonstrated on them. But again, this is about the Chen village. The government/CPC focused on Chen village because they wanted to promote Tai Chi as a sport. The Chen guys were selected, not to teach old skills and knowledge or "secrets", but to turn Tai Chi into a national sport. And that is exactly what they teach, a communist nationalist sport, that is also a tool for promoting China to foreigners. Maybe those guys get some people to "hate Chen Taiji", wouldn't be surprised at all.
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